A Question About Drivers

Patrick Black
4 years 340 days ago

Can someone shed some light on driver levels vs. stats? Something that confuses me still is how 2 drivers with different stats can still be the same level and star rating.

For example, and I see this all the time... Driver 1 can be Talent 20, driving ability all 20s, physical 20 and 51kg, but mental in the 17s and is a 4.5 star level 18. But driver 2 can be Talent 20, driving ability 20s, mental 20s, and physical 20 and 51kg and ALSO be a 4.5 star level 18.

How can this be?! Surely driver 2, regardless of my own team level, is a better driver than driver 1? Why are they the same level and star rating? It makes no sense to me. Is this not proof of hidden stats? Can anybody give me their thoughts on why two drivers of evidently differing stats can be the same level an star rating. The ONLY thing I can think of is experience level (but even then the difference is negligable or even not any different!). But surely experience alone can't have such a massive and unbalanced impact, if it does why not just sack any and all drivers with lower experience level for a driver with 20 in experience and 3-5 lower stats in everything else? So are there confirmed hidden stats? Is it a complete lottery?

Thanks for any replies and thoughts!

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Kevin Bissell Super Mod
4 years 340 days ago (Last edited by Kevin Bissell 4 years 339 days ago)

I think the software gets itself confused. For a Talent 20 driver generated from your academy... If you develop EVERY trainable attribute to 20 before the experience reaches 20 then the driver will never progress beyond L19 / 4.5 star despite the experience rating.

I have been reliably informed by a very experienced manager that if you stop training and leave just one of the Mental attributes at 19, then wait until experience reaches 20, the driver will become a L20 when you train that final Mental attribute.

Some of the drivers knocking about for a long time may have higher level but this is because the Devs ran a script, probably a couple of years ago, to update all fully developed T20 drivers to L20.

But it's a visual thing, it doesn't make the driver any faster.

Edit 10:00 GMT 15/02/20 - Correct error

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Patrick Black
4 years 340 days ago

Kevin

I think the software gets itself confused. For a Talent 20 driver generated from your academy... If you develop EVERY trainable attribute to 20 before the experience reaches 20 then the driver will never progress beyond L18 / 4.5 star despite the experience rating.

I have been reliably informed by a very experienced manager that if you stop training and leave just one of the Mental attributes at 19, then wait until experience reaches 20, the driver will become a L20 when you train that final Mental attribute.

Some of the drivers knocking about for a long time may have higher level but this is because the Devs ran a script, probably a couple of years ago, to update all fully developed T20 drivers to L20.

But it's a visual thing, it doesn't make the driver any faster.

Kevin,

Thank you very much for that speedy reply, and tip. It is very much appreciated!
On a slight different angle, but still about driver and stats, do you or anyone else know if there is any truth to this rumour that drivers generated before the major game update are slightly faster than drivers generated after (all stats being equal)? I shouldn't think it's the case but when you hear these rumours and then start to see things that back it up it plays on your mind a smidge!

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Frank Thomas Moderator
4 years 340 days ago

Looks like there's a minor bug in that the game isn't doing, or fails to do, a driver level update check after completing a race (and leveling experience) and thus a training attribute level up is needed to perform that check and correct the level value. Or completing the training just locks the level (as seen with the weight bug).

That rumour is news to me, but can't dismiss it as nonsense either. I do remember that years ago teams created before that game switch did pit stops faster on average than teams created after, as even though pit crew training was removed from the game that training remained as a hidden skill somewhere still affecting the new game.
Still, it also might be superstition or that human trait to see the things the brain expects to see and ignoring the ones to the contrary that sometimes makes it so hard to evaluate from pure observation without doing those tedious Excel graphs that so nicely show that whatever was observed and evaluated, it clearly wasn't reality.

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Kevin Bissell Super Mod
4 years 339 days ago

Patrick
On a slight different angle, but still about driver and stats, do you or anyone else know if there is any truth to this rumour that drivers generated before the major game update are slightly faster than drivers generated after (all stats being equal)? I shouldn't think it's the case but when you hear these rumours and then start to see things that back it up it plays on your mind a smidge!

Currently I am competing in the strongest league in iGP, and incidentally getting trounced by some seriously good managers. These guys/girls are arguably the best and most experienced managers in the game and if there was an advantage of having drivers migrated from an old version of the game you can be sure that they would be aware of this. I can report that none of the managers in this league are using this type of driver so it's an urban myth.

There is a rumour in the Italian forums that bald drivers are faster... LOL

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Slo Bro
4 years 339 days ago

Kevin

I think the software gets itself confused. For a Talent 20 driver generated from your academy... If you develop EVERY trainable attribute to 20 before the experience reaches 20 then the driver will never progress beyond L18 / 4.5 star despite the experience rating.

I have been reliably informed by a very experienced manager that if you stop training and leave just one of the Mental attributes at 19, then wait until experience reaches 20, the driver will become a L20 when you train that final Mental attribute.

Some of the drivers knocking about for a long time may have higher level but this is because the Devs ran a script, probably a couple of years ago, to update all fully developed T20 drivers to L20.

But it's a visual thing, it doesn't make the driver any faster.

Kevin my drivers are academy trained, attributes all level 20 except experience but they are level 19 drivers (not 18) and i don’t know star rating (5 to me but i’m level 18 manager)

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Kevin Bissell Super Mod
4 years 339 days ago

Slo

Kevin

I think the software gets itself confused. For a Talent 20 driver generated from your academy... If you develop EVERY trainable attribute to 20 before the experience reaches 20 then the driver will never progress beyond L18 / 4.5 star despite the experience rating.

I have been reliably informed by a very experienced manager that if you stop training and leave just one of the Mental attributes at 19, then wait until experience reaches 20, the driver will become a L20 when you train that final Mental attribute.

Some of the drivers knocking about for a long time may have higher level but this is because the Devs ran a script, probably a couple of years ago, to update all fully developed T20 drivers to L20.

But it's a visual thing, it doesn't make the driver any faster.

Kevin my drivers are academy trained, attributes all level 20 except experience but they are level 19 drivers (not 18) and i don’t know star rating (5 to me but i’m level 18 manager)

Sorry, bad information from me. Yes they can get to 19 as their experience rises (not 18 as I stated earlier) but I have never seen or had it reported to me that they get to L20 without using the workaround described in post #2.

Yes the 5* rating is because your manager level is 18, when it gets to 20 I believe your drivers will display as 4.5*

Thank you for pointing out my error, I will edit post #2 to make it correct.

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