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Weakest car af all time

Hi Patrick

Assuming you only used your one (currently active) CD for all of last season you should have the following:
Handling = Number of races last season x 3
Reliability = Number of races last season x 1
The other 6 design attributes = Number of races last season  x 2

You have 17 races this coming season, if this was the same last season your start of season design should be, Handling 51, Reliability 17 and the others 34.

On the research page you definitely should be strongest or equal strongest in Handling. You may also be equal strongest in some of the "standard" six, it all depends on the strengths of your competitors CDs.

If your start design is not correct as per the calculation above you can reset it to the correct values by leaving and re-joining your league.

Even if you do reset using the above trick, please let me know if the design is wrong because it sounds like a bug, and if it is, I need to escalate it to the developers.

Hi Patrick.

The trick of using more than one CD was negated when the developers increased the Elite design range and at the same time nerfed the CD. You will remember that until recently the range was 0-100,there was a start of season cap of 50 and a 5 star CD would generate 3.75 dp per race in his/her area of strength.

So even in a relatively short season of 17 races a CD could generate 17 x 3.75 = 63.75 dp (rounds to 64). Because of the cap 14 of those DP were wasted so the trick was to use more than one CD and this meant you had a higher number of dp at the start of the season than any competitor who was only using one CD.

Moving on to the current situation. A 5 star CD has been nerfed and now only generates 3 dp in strength, 2 dp in a standard attribute and 1 dp in weakness. So even in a 22 race season the most dp a single CD can generate is 22 x 3 = 66.

In addition to nerfing the CD the devs also increased Elite range to 0-200. I am not sure but I am guessing they simply doubled the original range which effectively halved the value of a single design point (it depends on your point of view). The start of season cap of 50 was either removed or also doubled, it doesn't matter which because if a CD can only achieve a maximum of 66 dp there is effectively no cap.

So the short answer to your question


If you're looking to gain more total design points than a competitor it doesn't work any more. If you are aiming to have a car that is balanced across more than one design area or want to maximise research then using more than one CD does still work but unless you're in one of the very top leagues I'm not convinced the benefit you get will compensate for the cost of doing it.

BTW: Using more than one CD will mean you will not be the strongest team in your CD strength areas if another manager has only used a single CD with the same strength. (if that makes sense) I believe this is what you are experiencing.

BTW, as I understand it even the host can leave and re-join the league. So if you want to reset your design to maximise dp in your current CD strength, this is the way to do it.

Hi Leo

Just after the changes I did some tests on the design point yield for various CDs. 

The team was L20 and I tested leaving and re-joining a league during the break with seven CDs ranging from Level 20 / 5 star down to Level 15 / 3.5 star. This was for a 15 race season so proves that a 5 star CD generates 3 strength, 2 Standard and 1 Weakness. Here are the results...



So as you can see both the level and the star rating are important, and...


The results suggest this is not the case.

Always assuming that 1. You ignore the L19 5 star CD and 2. You are a L20 Team.

A L15 CD would most likely also generate 3 / 2 / 1 for a L15 team (not tested) so you have to work the the team level variable into the formula. Then all we need to do is work out what happens if you level up mid-way through the season.