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SS Tyres slower than H in GB?

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Gion Palm medal 4759
3 years 302 days ago
It Happened to me today. 
I had SS, with 8 Laps Fuel. My opponent, H Tyres, same Fuel. 
I must have been much faster, but i didn’t. My opponent just stayed on the same pace as mine.
How can it be possible? In Bahrain okay, but in Great Britain, at 5°C?
Sound really really really weird to me. Some kind of Random.

btw: Driver has max points, cars are very similar with the opponent ones.
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Cole Trickle medal 5000
3 years 301 days ago
Did you saw those hard tyres in live race?
Did you verify after the race via race data, that he was on hards?
Asking this, cause there used to be a bug with displaying wrong tyres in live race.
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Gion Palm medal 4759
3 years 301 days ago

Cole
Did you saw those hard tyres in live race?
Did you verify after the race via race data, that he was on hards?
Asking this, cause there used to be a bug with displaying wrong tyres in live race.



Thank you Cole. Yes. We have the Rule that 1 Tyre compound is compulsory for top5 teams, and in that race, it was compulsory (for him) to use once H tyres. I was definitely on SS, he definitely H. His strategy was like using them as short as possible, my strategy was to use SS, same number of laps... so he ran S-S-H-S, me S-S-SS-S. he was faster. Wich is kind of strange, considering the 5°C in Silverstone.
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M S medal 6179
3 years 301 days ago (Last edited by M S 3 years 301 days ago)
Looking at lap data what I can see is he came out right behind you and got in your Drs and took advantage to stay in your slip stream and kept getting Drs from you. In situation like that even being on slower tyre you would go a lot faster if car ahead is on softer tyre compound it keeps helping pulling car on slower tyre with him. You should have broken the Drs knowing you were on faster softer tyre and he was on slower harder tyre. Push level comes in to it as well if he was on Max push to stay in your Drs. What I can't see is if he even used his boost to stay in your Drs or not but that's another thing you can do to minimise tyre disadvantage. Another thing is running fresher tyre compared to almost bald tyre. So SS tyre has really small life compared to H tyre has longest life. When fuel load is low like only 6-7 lap stint SS tyre would be towards 40% life on lap 6 compared to H tyre on 80% odd so that's another thing to keep in mind. More thread on tyre means maximum performance. So many factors can be the reason. 
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Gion Palm medal 4759
3 years 301 days ago

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Looking at lap data what I can see is he came out right behind you and got in your Drs and took advantage to stay in your slip stream and kept getting Drs from you. In situation like that even being on slower tyre you would go a lot faster if car ahead is on softer tyre compound it keeps helping pulling car on slower tyre with him. You should have broken the Drs knowing you were on faster softer tyre and he was on slower harder tyre. Push level comes in to it as well if he was on Max push to stay in your Drs. What I can see is if he even used his boost to stay in your Drs or not but that's another thing you can do to minimise tyre disadvantage. Another thing is running fresher tyre compared to almost bald tyre. So SS tyre has really small life compared to H tyre has longest life. When fuel load is low like only 6-7 lap stint SS tyre would be towards 40% life on lap 6 compared to H tyre on 80% odd so that's another thing to keep in mind. More thread on tyre means maximum performance. So many factors can be the reason. 


Thank you MS. That helped. In fact, I was not able to let him behind, so he had always DRS using few boost. I should have used more boost to let him behind, but it was tricky, because of tyre temperature.


Thanks for your hints. 
Gion
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Cole Trickle medal 5000
3 years 300 days ago

Gion

.. In fact, I was not able to let him behind, so he had always DRS using few boost.


So, the subject of this topic being "SS Tyres slower than H in GB?" didn't actually happen.



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Gion Palm medal 4759
3 years 300 days ago

Cole

Gion

.. In fact, I was not able to let him behind, so he had always DRS using few boost.


So, the subject of this topic being "SS Tyres slower than H in GB?" didn't actually happen.






It did, but it was not due to slower tyres itself, it was due to mismanagement of temperature, pushlevel and better strategy of the opponent. SS Tyres were faster for some laps, then it turned to be as fast as others, in overall projection. Expectation was though that SS should be almost a sec faster than H. But the performance was not linear.
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