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medal 5000
3 years 223 days ago
In our race earlier today in Pro, a car on inters outpaced multiple medium runners on a bone dry track. This was in 2D mode, and everyone experienced it. Please can you fix it, as without this incident the championship would be much different, and everyone in our league would hate the championship to be decided by a bug or fault in the game
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medal 5000
3 years 223 days ago
I'm in the rookie league and I saw a similar thing happen earlier
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medal 5000
3 years 223 days ago
in my race i also had this problem
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medal 5000 Super Mod
3 years 223 days ago

Luca
In our race earlier today in Pro, a car on inters outpaced multiple medium runners on a bone dry track. This was in 2D mode, and everyone experienced it. Please can you fix it, as without this incident the championship would be much different, and everyone in our league would hate the championship to be decided by a bug or fault in the game


It was a high level team with a well trained T20, L18 driver who I imagine was desperately trying to avoid entering the promotion zone, why else would he qualify and run his first stint on inters? I notice another car qualified on full wets.

He was losing between 4 and 5 seconds a lap to the leader who was a much lower level with a lower level driver. The fact that he was keeping pace with a bunch of cars that were most likely on default settings, default strategy and quite possibly using engines that were many races old isn't a bug. 

Some of them broke down suggesting they hadn't been repaired for a number of races which possibly means the managers haven't logged in for weeks (your league only races twice per week).


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medal 5000
3 years 223 days ago (Last edited by Dortmund Simp 3 years 223 days ago)
Kevin

Luca
In our race earlier today in Pro, a car on inters outpaced multiple medium runners on a bone dry track. This was in 2D mode, and everyone experienced it. Please can you fix it, as without this incident the championship would be much different, and everyone in our league would hate the championship to be decided by a bug or fault in the game


It was a high level team with a well trained T20, L18 driver who I imagine was desperately trying to avoid entering the promotion zone, why else would he qualify and run his first stint on inters? I notice another car qualified on full wets.

He was losing between 4 and 5 seconds a lap to the leader who was a much lower level with a lower level driver. The fact that he was keeping pace with a bunch of cars that were most likely on default settings, default strategy and quite possibly using engines that were many races old isn't a bug. 

Some of them broke down suggesting they hadn't been repaired for a number of races which possibly means the managers haven't logged in for weeks (your league only races twice per week).



The two retirements of the race were of suspension failure and running out of fuel, and they are backmarkers anyway. The people that guy were racing were active, and doing a one-stop mostly, as was the driver in question, only he did inter - medium. The driver is the championship leader, is already confirmed to be promoted, and is in a fight with my team for the championship. He qualified on inters because it was raining earlier, and got locked on to the inters. I dought he would compromise his race for no reason whatsover. Even if he was not confirmed to be promoted, why would he want to not get promoted?


So please, next time sort out your facts before throwing out theories.
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medal 5511
3 years 223 days ago

Luca
Kevin

Luca
In our race earlier today in Pro, a car on inters outpaced multiple medium runners on a bone dry track. This was in 2D mode, and everyone experienced it. Please can you fix it, as without this incident the championship would be much different, and everyone in our league would hate the championship to be decided by a bug or fault in the game


It was a high level team with a well trained T20, L18 driver who I imagine was desperately trying to avoid entering the promotion zone, why else would he qualify and run his first stint on inters? I notice another car qualified on full wets.

He was losing between 4 and 5 seconds a lap to the leader who was a much lower level with a lower level driver. The fact that he was keeping pace with a bunch of cars that were most likely on default settings, default strategy and quite possibly using engines that were many races old isn't a bug. 

Some of them broke down suggesting they hadn't been repaired for a number of races which possibly means the managers haven't logged in for weeks (your league only races twice per week).



The two retirements of the race were of suspension failure and running out of fuel, and they are backmarkers anyway. The people that guy were racing were active, and doing a one-stop mostly, as was the driver in question, only he did inter - medium. The driver is the championship leader, is already confirmed to be promoted, and is in a fight with my team for the championship. He qualified on inters because it was raining earlier, and got locked on to the inters. I dought he would compromise his race for no reason whatsover. Even if he was not confirmed to be promoted, why would he want to not get promoted?


So please, next time sort out your facts before throwing out theories.


Your championship leader played wets and he was lapped. No way he was faster than mediums. So which is it???


For a new player, you are pretty much argumentative and aggressive on here. Always best to learn first.

Just off the top of my head, a player might not want to move to elite yet because it is a totally different ball game and needs to level up his/her account first…
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medal 5000
3 years 223 days ago
Not what you want to hear.
A lot of people use inters in the dry and slicks in wet. To see how they get on. Most of the time they finish ahead of people that don't build the car in a competitive way and they always beat the none setup cars.

Is the problem the tyres or is it really the car design that is the problem?
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medal 5000 Super Mod
3 years 223 days ago (Last edited by Kevin Bissell 3 years 223 days ago)
These are the qualifying results for the race you are talking about. Pole position was set on Softs but just look at the qualifying times of the cars you assure us were active one stopping on Mediums. I can't believe Mediums would be 4 or 5 seconds a lap slower than softs if the cars had a good design, were set up correctly, had well trained drivers and had new engines.

Your statement that these cars were running two stints of Mediums is factually incorrect. The three teams who qualified immediately behind the team on Inters (positions 8, 9 & 10) all did three stints on Mediums and all pitted on the same laps (9 & 18) which suggests that they were all on a default strategy. If this is the case then it is fairly safe to assume the managers had not set them up for the race and possibly hadn't renewed the engines.

The fact they were so far off the pace is probably the reason why the high level team on Inters was able to keep up with them but at the same time was losing 5 seconds a lap to the leading car. Like you say I'm just throwing out wild theories here and you most likely know best.




Edit: Finally, just to put the record straight, the person who was running on Inters is not the championship leader, he is currently in 11th place, well outside the promotion zone with only one race remaining. Even if he wins tomorrow he won't be promoted.
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medal 5000
3 years 223 days ago (Last edited by James Greer 3 years 223 days ago)
To be fair there isn't a massive amount in it, maybe they could make inters a little slower in the dry. When they get around to working on the tyres.


H 2
M 4
S 6
SS 8
I 10 
Would be a nice wear amount ?
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medal 5000
3 years 223 days ago
Yes, Inters don't have to be incredibly slow in dry conditions, but their wear has to much higher than any dry compound.
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medal 5000
3 years 223 days ago
They aren't slow as per se, but they overheat easily and can't push, so in-race they are
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medal 5000
3 years 223 days ago
The driver in question is already level 18 so I doubt he wants to level up when he doesn't need to. Also I am talking about the person on inters here not the person on wets. That driver even managed to make up places at the start of the race, over online players. I was those drivers I was talking about not the people behind, Kevin. The person also joined the league half way through the season so he was behind in terms of car development. 
Even so, the inters should not be as fast as slicks in dry conditions, and this must be fixed as it is letting uncareful players "off the hook". So please fix this, developers
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medal 5000 Super Mod
3 years 223 days ago (Last edited by Kevin Bissell 3 years 223 days ago)
I've checked the data from your most recent race (Mexico) and given the fact that you were managing the race I have absolutely no idea why your recollection of a race you attended appears to contradict the race data.

Your car qualified on pole and led the race from the start, you pulled away from the car on Inters at a rate of about 4 or 5 seconds a lap. You pitted on lap 11 and still came out of the pits in the lead, some 15 seconds ahead of the guy on Inters, you were never racing him.

The car on Inters qualified in 7th place ahead of some cars on Meds that were clearly not set up. He dropped to 8th place and stayed in pretty much that position until some of the two stoppers pitted.

The manager has 230 races under his belt against your 33 so he probably knows what he's doing. Yes he only joined the league 8 races ago but that doesn't necessarily mean he is behind in terms of car development. He receives more design points every race than the lower level teams and potentially also saved dp to maximise research.

The fact is he's a L18 Manager racing against some inexperienced managers, many of whom don't attend or set up.

I don't believe there is a huge problem with the wet compounds because in a well attended league with experienced managers and cars that are well designed Inters would not be competitive in a dry race.

I'm not going to waste any more time analysing your race data or arguing about this. My advice to you is instead of making stuff up to support your opinion about tyre issues you should try listening to advice from people who have been playing this game a lot longer than you. It's not just me, everyone else here is trying to tell you the same thing.
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medal 5000
3 years 223 days ago
Kevin, you're doing it again. How can someone on inters who has a car at similar spec to the guys near him manage to outpace them? Yes, I was faster, but what about the others? It's messing with the championship. A car on inters shouldn't outpace cars on slicks, period. Please fix this, developers.
Maybe I got some facts wrong by accident. But it still remains, how can a car on inters outpace cars of a similar spec on a bone dry track
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medal 5511
3 years 223 days ago
Can some close this post please. OP obviously can’t be bothered to listen.
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medal 5000 Super Mod
3 years 223 days ago
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Can some close this post please. OP obviously can’t be bothered to listen.


I could close it but then I'd be accused of misuse of my Mod powers. However, you're right, no matter how clearly you think you have explained the subject, some people just don't want to learn.
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medal 5000
3 years 223 days ago

Kevin
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Can some close this post please. OP obviously can’t be bothered to listen.


I could close it but then I'd be accused of misuse of my Mod powers. However, you're right, no matter how clearly you think you have explained the subject, some people just don't want to learn.



Are you targetting me?
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medal 5290 Community Manager
3 years 223 days ago
Hello,

I mark this thread as solved. Thank you everyone for the replies.
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