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Engine pricing.

I think Engine pricing should be an automatic increase of 'x' amount above the 500k base for each level attained. It seems a bit strange to be offering up LVL 30 engines for 500k when people are trying to sell lower level engines for 500k.. may as well make them all 500k and be done with it. 

And what purpose would that serve exactly? Why should someone be stopped from selling a Level 21 engine priced at 1mil. a race, a Level 30 engine priced at 500k a race or anything between the two extremes?


It should be the engine makers discretion, as it is. For example a maker may choose to price their Level 30 engine at 500k and attract more customers, but the caveat maybe that the engine strength / weakness per track is set per the maker's wishes.
On the other hand someone may opt to price their Level 28 at 1 million potentially attracting less customers, but offer their customers the desired strength / weakness on a per request basis via in game messaging or external communication methods.

How does one alter engine stats for each individual customer? Is this a new feature?  

Virtually every engine is being sold at 500k and there is no trade off. Advertise lvl 28 engine for 500k and then someone advertises a lvl 30 for 500k immediately after. Oh wait i just saw an engine advertised for $600. Now that's really cheap lol. 
 

Not sure if you’re being deliberately obtuse here, but a) Not all customers may race on the same circuit on a given day, so setting different strengths for different circuits is definitely a feature that can be used. b) if different customers are racing on the same circuit on a given day in different timeslots, I'd alter the engine after one of them has finished their race.

I'm doubting that anyone that has 10 customers in different leagues with different times is going to bother doing this. If it was done so that the contract was different which each customer I'd be charging those that wanted me to change it every race $1mil, not 500k. As for obtuse.. i don't see why that needed but you did say "I'd" as in "I would", not "I do.." so i seriously doubt you do it either. 

Still, question remains: why would you stop people from asking the price they want? Free market, supply and demand, no?

Where did i say i was stopping people? lol. Why do people insist on making things up. Go back and read what i said. 

This here mate, you want price to not be set freely but to be x above 500k. Automatic increases, seems obvious to me that equals stopping people from asking the price they want

So that’s not me making things up, that’s you making up the idea that people make things up 😉

It's a base increase per level lol, what was so hard about understanding this? 

"Seems obvious to me that equals stopping people from asking the price they want"

Right so why can't i sell them for 400k? or 300k? or for free? Different prices for different customers? 
 

Instead of mocking me for not understanding, explain it mate, give me examples.

This is probably very clear in your head but I can’t see in your head

Example base prices from what I understand from OP:

L30: 500
L29: 400
L28: 300...

Basically preventing L30 from taking over the market totally. It's not a bad idea. You get to make a choice, quality vs price.

Should anyone be prevented from charging the price they want?  What it is bad about that?  Customers have the choice of what they want to pay and who they choose to buy from.  Whether you like or not you are trying to dictate what anyone can charge even if that is not your intention.

If it’s a choice between $500k for a level 28 engine or a million for a level 30 then 95% will go for the level 30 so I don’t believe your suggestion would make any difference.


Altering engine stats for each customers races is not a new feature and could be done from day 1, although not many will want to do it as it is time consuming and puts a lot obligations on the manufacturer to be constantly making the changes.

Ok, I see you mean base price, so level 30 in the 500k - 1M range, level 29 in the 400k to 900k range, …

2 things to consider:

Lower base price cuts into manufacturer profits (is it sustainable to have less profit at a level where less clients are allowed)

Level 26 and 27 do the same, it both gains you +13 as level 27 is strenght +27 and weakness -14. So maybe make it diminish per 2 levels

It’s not a bad suggestion, not my cup of tea though, I like free market better as indeed a level 28 manager could have an engine worth its money (Fried Rice’s argument)

Yeah just a base price increase, as it is there is no trade off really. Like i say you can't go under 500k, you can't give them away for free and you can't ideally advertise a lower level engine for a higher price, or even up the price for your existing customers (even individually) because lvl 30 will just out do you anyway so they may as well be a set 500k price for the lot of them. It's just a pointless system overall imo. 

Dick: "Should anyone be prevented from charging what they want?" As before with someone else.. why are you making things up? We are ALL already prevented from charging what we want.. prevented from individual contracts with customers and prevented from giving them away for free. It is again not what i was talking about and a completely pointless baseless statement.  

The level 30 engine for clients doesn’t do that much more damage tbh. Client doesn’t have desired weakness, paired weakness instead.  so for a client, difference between for instance lvl 30 and 28 is only +2 and -1 design point. Not race-changing imo

Big change is desired weakness for manufacturers when they hit level 30, that is race-changing but not for client

I’ve only seen one ad out of 5-6 that I’ve gone through at a glance where the manufacturer said they’re willing to change the specs. Can they do that for multiple customers? Unknown.
Let’s get our head out of where the sun don’t shine for a sec and be realistic - if 10% of all manufacturers adjust stats for their clients, I’d say that’s optimistic.
Most ads are for 500k, and any player new to this will go for the lvl 30s and perhaps switch between them every now and then. The suggestion makes total sense.