Tyre compounds feedback thread

Good job! Was fun to watch the little differences yesterday.

edit : I iused standard view, not 3d in case it helps. some java problems, but it's java... always bugging ;)

it was fun, but ... I only tried mediums and Softs on Suzuka (50%). I always had to fall back with mediums 8 laps on 10, I let you imagine how hot were the sfots after 2 laps (always 1/.5 position ) !

the track was not hot at all, around 24 in the air.  and tyre wear not at the max (high, not very high ) I let you imagine how "often " we're going to use these soft or supersoft  tyres ;)

degradation was similar to the old hard compounds, but mediums were hot faster than old hards.

Not very fun to play 22laps on 26 in 1/5 position ( even counting the fact that tyres were at good temp just mounted, I never played in back off position with hards before at suzuka)

good work tho. keep pushing

At tonight's race in our league, in the top 4 there were all the 4 compounds. Super softs for the win! :D

This update has definetly spiced up our league, and for sure the other leagues too. Well done guys, thank you!

Its working today which is great, qualified both drivers super soft and soft and locked out the front row. Ultimately it was in Bahrain so far too hot but I used all 4 compounds to understand durability, temp etc. I believe hard tyres will be the way to go on the warm tracks, they're not far off the medium pace and they come into play later in the stint.
Great job!

I imagine, just wanted to give the feedback ;) I think I saw you few minutes at the beggining of the race, good think you saw it.
old hards had a stable temp between 2 and 3 / 5 last race.

Good day all.

Super Softs are very very fast an give up within 2-3 laps max!    Softs an Mediums are very closely matched.

I'm having 2D viewer issues so thats a who different trend.

I just about managed 9 laps on the super soft at Silverstone last night. Pitted with 13% remaining!

But keeping them from heating up was the hard part. After 2 sectors on 3/5 push they were
bright red.

They will be perfect for Monaco! 

Hey Guys got my first race tonight with the new tires can anyone give any feedback/advice for how long they will last (The tires), My race tonight is monza

Any Help is much appreicated 

Cheers Alan

Much depends on the push levels you use...
I've used 3 tyre compounds in Monza (with 2 drivers), SS, S and Medium.

Average wear rate per lap were:
SS  12,3
S       8,7
M      5,7

Of course, also depends on number of laps given...

Do keep in mind the old soft tyres were 1/5 push already on Monza and burning quite easily on a 2 stop race of 50%. Likely it's the new soft or medium the way tyres are now at monza.

As for tyre feedback, some thoughts after starting in Malaysia and just having finished Spain.:

The supersoft tyre proves to be a good addition and also the soft and medium give a good posibility to do different strategies that end up being close. Compliments on those 3 compounds. :)

The hard tyre seems to be a different story though. I imagined it to work at the high wear tracks in the beginning of the calender combined with the temperatures of around 30 degrees C we had during those races. So far however, the hard tyres goes pretty much unused. It looks like there is not enough speed in it to be able to do a strategy that can compete with any strategy done on the other 3 compounds. When that's no possible on the high wear tracks with high temperatures, I think it's unlikely that it will be during races where the temperatures are low(er) and the tracks have less wear. Personaly I think it might need some tweaking.

Have just tried three tyre compounds at Singapore with track temp at about 28 deg C.
First 6 laps SS started 3/5 push soon dropping to 1/5 push to keep temp down, gained 14 sec lead in 6 laps wear rate approx13%.
Moved to Medium started 3/5 push dropping to 2/5 push for temps 8 laps, times still improving wear rate approx 6%
8 laps on hard 3/5 push times still improving, 4/5 push tyres started to turn red wear rate approx 4%
last 8 laps on medium gaining fastest lap time.

Tyre compounds definitely adding to choices and making races more tactical

Yes we mostly used the Hard tires with Heavy fuel load, so It feels slower, and supersoft and Soft on mostly low fuel so feels super quick, tires with Optimal temperature means we dont  lose time warming up tires but Supersofts and softs are so quick even though we are on 1/5 push that mostly opt to do a extra pit stop than a long stint on hard tires, medium tires are my favorite type of  tyres so far as It has a good mixture of durability and speed 

The Super Softs seem to me like they overheat everywhere

Don't forget we're currently in Summer; iGP is real time in terms of weather so most places in EU are hitting 25+ degree, outside EU much higher. Come winter the reverse will happen and everyone will be complaining about warming tyres up!

regardless, apart from monaco, they cant last 3 laps anywhere without  going red

In my opinion, and after 3 races, I really think that the big change has been about the tyres starting every stint alreay warmed up. That has actually change the way of racing as for example now you can try many stints with medium (old hards) tyres and now softs (and of course super-softs) are overheated easily which is fine to force an entire soft tyre strategy to stop more often. Interesting at the very least, moreover because you can miss the race or the start of it and you still hace some chances to get some points.

But, to be honest, about having 4 tyre compounds, I think it still almost the same. I mean clearly new hard tyres are going to be useless in almost every race (even when very hot and very high tyre wear) as they never have enough pace to be on top. And super-softs is ok for qualifying, doing a very short stint at the beginning (as it was usual anyway with old softs in many high wear circuits), and probably for Monaco of course, but apart from that...

After 3 races, I feel like softs are old softs, mediums are old hards, hards are useless and super-softs are ok for having fun and spicing up a bit the qualifying. So (it's my humble opinion) we will probably end having almost the same kind of strategies as always.

But, as I said at first, true change is tyres starting already warm, good change I think that has changed many thinks and how to deal with live races (no more push more than 1 lap again), but my feedback about new compounds is negative, it could have been much much enjoyable.

Bye

Hi Jack,

If the basics are still the same, I only see the way of re-balancing tyres, at least to make hard a compound that people are really going to use.

But, the change that would make very enjoyable these 4 compounds would be getting rid of refueling each stop. Because I can guess that the main issue is that with hard tyres you expect to extend the stint as wear is low for them, but in that case you need a lot of fuel = no pace at all. And viceversa...

If the fuel is chosen only at the beginning (depending also fo course on your supplier, some need more, some less total of fuel to end the race), then the 4 compounds will automatically be a really exciting thing, worthy very short stints and worthy very long stints, in live races would be really funny trying to guess what the rivals are about to do or not. And it would be added another minor but also funny factor: a bit of less fuel (never push), a bit of more fuel (but i can push a lot).
Moreover, for you on the devs side, I think it could be easier to balance 4 compunds without thinking about fuel (It would be more "linear" approach maybe).

Fuel is the key to really spice up races. and anyway it's been a long time in real F1 without refueling each stint so....

This is my opinion.