Newer Managers v Experienced managers

Hi,

I don't like the fact newer managers can never catch up to more experienced manager's, they are always gonna have substantially better drivers, for instance i have level 7 drivers and no matter how long i play this for im never gonna be able to compete on an even playign field with managers who CURRENTLY have level 11+ drivers even good level 10's because we all train at the same rate so by the time i get to level 10 drivers my opponants are gonna be level 14+ and the top managers at the mo have level 15+ drivers already so they'll be more like level 18+
This fact has only really dorned on me recently and its sapped some of my enthusiasm for the game that im always gonna be miles behind the more experienced guys.
Maybe there needs to be a way for newer mangers over time to catch up, i dunno how, maybe as drivers get better/Higher level it gets harder & harder to train them and the lower level the driver the much faster there development / more training points u get to use or they get less, so at some point u gradually catch up & even out or something like that i dont really know.

Any thoughts?

Very interesting point.

I wonder whether I am winning because I have higher rated drivers than the people I am racing against?

Ultimately as these drivers age, I will be unable to maintain their level & so will have to be replaced. At this point others will have higher rated drivers. Does this mean that they will then start to win?

Eventually it'll be a cycle, where the best drivers atrophy too much and fall off the pace, needing replacement, so the next best will then move ahead, but that's a long way off yet.

I agree that the top teams need to be catchable otherwise you'll drive away new players because they just won't be able to compete for far too long

Managers who have raced less will still always been behind even in the 'cycle' because alot of the drivers who r level 14+ are young as well, so my levels 7's are same age between 19-22 so they will age the same and train the same then when they have aged by 15 years for example so u then both have to buy new younger drivers at the level that u are as a manager, and because my manager level is 3 levels behind i will have a drivers thats 3 levels lower for that whole of next cycle, then its starts again.... u can never catch up to within 1 or 2 levels unless all of the more experienced managers give up.

how long does it take a driver to age 10-15 years when racing everyday, do they gain 1 year older every 17 races?

They gain 1 year every 17 races yes.

And it is possible to catch up to the top managers in level. Each level takes more and more xp to gain. And you only gain about 40xp per race, so eventually you'll catch up to those top managers. I don't think anyone is yet lvl 12 are they? Looking at the top 10 in ranking, the best there is only lvl 11. It is possible to catch them up, but it's slow going.

ah so if u race everyday, a 20 year old driver will be to old at 30-35 approx yea, so a bit of maths racing everyday it will  be between 7 - 10 months time (Completly Approximate) b4 there drivers are to old and they have to buy new one's at there manager level (the Cycle).
So by Aprill 2013 when they buy new driver & i do as well my manager level will i imagine still be 2-3 levels behind so i will have closed the gap in driver level to within 3 levels. Then we start the cycle again, yeah u are right i will catch up one day maybe 2014.........   :)

World ends in 2012 lol

The level doesn't mean too much any way. It's more about their stats. I've had level 7 drivers faster than level 10 drivers all because of talent.

But you are right - There's heaps of teams around now who have 18 talent drivers and basically, there isn't any left for the lower teams to pick up. Until their drivers get old we're basically all stuck at a disadvantage to an extent.

I'm sorry but I am living proof that the OP is completely wrong. I've been racing since April 17th, I am now in the top 170 only 2 months later. I've just took time to learn the game properly like other people at the top 100 or 200. I'm in the same league as the World 1st Team, (pro series though), I am not too off the pace from him in perspectives of experience.

It's not experience that is setting the gap here, it is your skill.

The Mayian (it was the Mayian's right? :P) calander didn't have leap years, so the 2012 they ended the world at has come and gone already, and we are still here ;)

It will take time but you can catch up with high-xp managers.

Once your drivers have been trained to 19 in the important aspects, your halfway there, ensure you have bought all the Facilities and learn from the previous league winners what sorts of strategies work for what and there isn't much more in it, it then becomes a challenge of who has the best % car at the time.

David, have u ever raced against good quality level 14 drivers?

Me & Matt Dellit have been experimenting with what u need to beat him with his good level 14 driver & he uses live timing so cant see tires temp etc.

With ur level 8's If u use 2d u will need somewhere between 50-80% better car to be equal on performance with level 14's. And that will be even bigger if ur opponant is using 2d as well as thats an advantage so i dont know how much more better car u would need.

LOL 2D doesn't just ''gift'' an advantage over in speed, it's all relative to the strategy you're on and how well you're managing the tires.

Don't just look at a Driver's Level it means nothing if a person has trained all the mental to the maximum whilst leaving Physical for example untrained. My Level 12 driver is now beating my L14 driver (who has a WDC to his name in a tough league) every race it seems because he has reached top Physical amongst other training attributes.

It's how you train them, not how big the number is.

i mean in general in regards to driver levels.
i find 2d an advantage in terms of being able to see tire temps v's not being able to,, its worh time over a race distance, surely thats not in question..

I agree with the advantage, but it's not relative to every single race in the season. Monaco can be won by a non 2D driver for example. Low-temp High-wear could follow suit, but not to the degree of Monaco.

I just lose motivation to play as some of you know, And it just gets boring

Fully agree with this thread.  When I joined my league there was a guy who had a level 20 designer, level 10 drivers and walked the league simply because the rest of us could never get near.  It really removed my desire to play the game.

If I get beaten by a better strategy, set-up or someone having developed a faster car or signed a faster driver, then I'm okay with that but to have someone come in who already had several seasons under his belt and was vastly superior just took the fun away from playing.

my original post may have gotten a bit lost with other posts but what do the developers think of the suggestion that the higher level the driver the less training points u get.
Yeah i no its not all about level its what u train etc & stratagy but i still think its a massive advantage that cant be overcome and will lead managers once they have got to elite will get board because they r still far away from the level 13-15 drivers.

For example

level 1-6 drivers get to train after every race as normal.
level 7-9 drivers get to train every 2 races.
level 10-12 drives get to train every 3 races.
level 13-15 get to train every 4 races.
level 16-18 get to train every 5 races.
level 19-20 get to train every 6 races.

or something like that.
To give newer managers chance to gradually catch up, assuming they train the right things etc.
What do the devlopers think?

And at level 16+ Atrophy tears apart your drivers and they get weaker, I am against this idea, eventually most of iGP will be at the level cap and there will be no need for this.