Is the game supposed to constantly favour higher lvl players ?

hi all,    On a second account  i have,  i am in elite  tier  with a lvl 7 account.  Up untill this  season the  other  players  in the  league  were  about  5-6  lvls  above  me  and  i  could  still manage  to  race  them.  this  season a new  player  who  is  lvl  17  joined  and  nobody  can get  near  him, he  has  dominated  every  race and  is  faster  than me  even if  he  is  on a  slower  strat  with  more  fuel and  harder  tyres.    My  point  is  this..  to get  to  his  lvl  to be  able  to  race  him  on a  lvl  playing  field  will take  a  couple  of months  of  playing everyday to lvl  my  team and  drivers  up.  so  in the  mean  time  whats  the  point  of  me  turning  up and  paying  a  sub  when  i  have  no  chance  to  win ?  Now  i  know  some  of  you  will say  well you  got  to  spend  time  and  lvl  up BLA BLA BLA..  But this  is  supposed  to  be  a  management  game .. no matter  what  i  do, i cant  beat  this  guy  untill i am closer  to  his  lvl ..  so  were  i  the attraction in playing  in the  mean time,  when i  cant  get near  him ?  Is  this the  reason a  lot  of players  seem to  quit  after  a short  time playing?  Got  to  be  honest  it  all feels  a bit pointess to  me  at  the moment ..

The game does not favour any specific set of managers/players. There is a reason why there are three tiers for all leagues. If everything was to be realistic promotion wise, you should not have gotten to the elite tier until you were level 8 or 9 imo. You just simply aren't experienced enough and you also don't have the kind of high leveled drivers he has. The more experienced a driver is, the more likely he will succeed against those less experienced. What's your 2nd account's league name? I guarantee you next season he will not be able to win again, but probably be near the top of the points standings.

Also, there's been some speculation that there are some ultra rare drivers who have Senna-like performance no matter what their attributes are. There's a thread somewhere in the forums from long, long ago that talked about it.

If anything, the game favours people who know what the hell they are doing when it comes to the kind of drivers they have, strategies they use, and suppliers they use.

The right kinds of any of those combinations can lead to some frightening domination, especially to those who don't put in as much thought as the more successful managers. However, variables in the game still prevent 100% domination. I don't think no one person can win consistently.

Alan Thomas

Yes top level players have advantages such high level crews and drivers... is the award for his time on the game... Top drivers level 18 are the result of long training only could made playing a  lot of time.

I recommend you get promoted to PRO at lvl 7 and ELITE at lvl 11, that garantee you a fair performance in the next tier.
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Sorry Blunion but i know a league with a same guy wining on elite like 5 or 6 seasons  And is impossible to beat them.

Blunion Racing.. Sorry mate but your talking rubbish .. You suggest i dont know what i am doing and dont spend enough time on the game?? How did i get to elite at lvl 7 then ? and no its not a poor league, its very close racing with normaly 6-7 players attending every night.. i won the elite league last year despite being 5-6 lvls lower than some of the players. Since his new guy has joined however and been unbeatable, it has had a very negative effect,with now only 3 of us turning up for races. there is no fun in watching him just do standard strats and still be faster than you, no matter what you try to outrace him. i dont know what the answer is .. unless its more tiers, like super elite or something for people who have lvl 15 + accounts..? i do know, that playing against him, 10 lvls ahead of me, is pointless and makes me feel like theres no point to playing the game ..

Every time I see someone compaining like this they never seem to think maybe the manager knows how to read between the lines when it comes to his drivers feedback on what they call out for a car setup. 1 point up or down on the rear wing or anyother part can make all the differance in the world...

The guy in your league is level 10 ..

I get what you're saying Alan and yes the game does favour higher lvl managers, because higher lvl managers can get better drivers/staff. Heres a quick example of why his team will be untouchable:

Lvl 7/8 Driver stats: Age-32, Talent-20, Speed-19, Physical-13, Mental-6, Technical-5, Defence-8, Attack-12...

Lvl 17/18 Driver stats: Age-24, Talent-20, Speed-20, Physical-20, Mental-16, Technical-18, Defence-20, Attack-20...

Now imagine combining that with a team that instead of playing in Elite for a few months has been playing for 2-3 years perhaps and most likely records all his/her data, has the most experience with just about every in game component and has learned from the best players in the game? The result would be somebody who can dominate the game. 

What can you do?
Well you can begin by looking at what he uses, check the league news and read what parts he's using, check out the staff he's hiring, look at his race data, look at his previous races in different leagues, which leagues he's been in... basically learn everything you can about your opponent 


 

That's just nonsense. Getting the good drivers does not depend on your level as a manager.

For example. When you get the lvl 20 talent drivers in your team when they are 17 years old, they will be lvl 7 drivers. So that's very much in the reach of a lower level manager. To get that driver up to decent speed, it will take you probably about 3 seasons. To get the driver in the top, it might be 80 races and at that time the driver is 21 years old.

It's about choosing your drivers and after that training them properly. I still see many Elite teams with maxed out mental and technical stats which as mentioned many times on the forum does not help the drivers speed.

When you try to find drivers on the market then your level as manager helps but on the other hand probably almost no manager will kick out a fully trained driver at a young age. Most likely they were trained by themselves.

What league is that manager in? I want to see that for myself.

very interesting case!!! so...  which leaue it is??

and yours seceond account in what league is ???

@Aan Thomas

Hi guys , thanks for all your replys. some i can agree with, some i dont. A lot of you ask what league my other team is in.. Well tbh i dont want to say, because it will sort of make a target of my complaint to the lvl 17 player in question and i am not having a go at him as such just the way the game seems to favour high lvl players when you get promoted to elite leagues.. Some of you say dont get promo to elite untill yor lvl 11 or so.. But thats stupid ! what are you supposed to do not win races when you can ? some of you say i need to learn to play better ... well i won elite last year and am a solid second to this lvl 17 guy this year.. As i said i can be on a 3 stop with low fuel load and ss tyres and he can do faster laps with a 2 stop stratagy and meds on !! That has been true on every track not just 1 .. if were on same strat he can pull up to 2-3 seconds a lap on me ..
I do uderstand that higher lvl has to have advantages, but i think we need another tier for divers with lvl 15 plus accounts, trying to race someone that lvl is just silly and may be the reason a lot of people give up on the game....

If  you read  my  orignal post Benjamin, it  says  its  not  this  account  .......

Alan, you have to stay realistic mate. I race in an elite league where there are 3/4 guys who are level 18+ and are uncatchable most races, but that is why we love the real F1, no team (Brawn aside) comes into the sport and dominates from the start, there is a natural progression that needs to take place to get to the top. I was promoted from rookie to elite in 3 seasons, despite only winning 1 race in elite and 1 in pro (scored consistent points to get promoted in 3rd both times). I have only just got to level 9 so am way off those guys in front of me....BUT what i have really enjoyed is seeing my progression time wise over the 3 seasons i have been in the elite league. My first season i was lucky if i stayed within 2 seconds a lap of the leaders and was competing for the odd point here or there, the following season i was a bit closer and this season closer still (led my first lap recently and am regularly the quickest car through the speed trap).
My point is that those guys in front have been playing the game from the start, but cant get much quicker, whereas i have all the potential to improve and catching them is what i plan to do lol
finally well done on winning an elite tier at only level 7, thats impressive stuff.

I was able to beat people using a 30% car against their 100% designed car we where all same level.

If you want a driver to keep up with him you need a driver with high experience at least 15% & 20% talent and very good strategies.

A good example would be Patrícia Davies http://igpmanager.com/play/?url=team-driver/378694

Maybe change how drivers experience works.

1% gain every time a driver joins a new team at end of their first season, after completing 3 seasons with the same team he/she will get a 2% gain.

Based on this experience points system Jenson Button aged 35 will have 17% experience at the end of this season
his career 1998-persent
8 different teams
8 points for completing 3seasons with teams
1 point for completing 2seasons with a team
17 Total experience :D

Edit - Fernando Alonso aged 33 will have 15% experience end of this season & everyone classes him better than Jenson
his career 1999-persent
7teams
4 points completing 3seasons with teams
4 points completing 2 seasons with teams
15 total

hi tim and james , you both make valid points and i agree with what you say .. BUT .. i dont think anyone should have so big a advantage that there unbeatable when your in the same league lvl as them ! People have been saying for ages that the player base for this game is falling. i think this may be one reason for that.. how many seasons will it take me to be able to compete with this lvl 17 guy ? Dont forget he is lvling also at the same time so will probably be 20 before i am 17 .. ITS taken about 2 seasons for me to get from hitting lvl 7 to nearly lvl 8 and it takes longer to lvl each new lvl .. so i assume your talking months and thats playing everyday .. if theres no way you can win a management game no matter how you manage your team theres a flaw somewere ..

If he is always winning he is getting xp no problem. Sending him to our European Racing League if time suits him we always have great battles :)

Found the league you're talking about, but won't mention it here to stick within your wishes. Basically, his driver is fully trained (in the areas that mean anything) and yours is nowhere near. Get training :)

Hi Alan,

maybe you should try to be realistic, mate. You want to beat a lvl 18 team on a lvl 8 team. Under normal circunstances it would be very difficult. I don't think it is a game flaw. He's definitely on another level and maybe you should look for more or less equal competitors.

I was promoted to pro at level 6. Participated in a league in pro tier where I was a backmarker at every race. Still it was lots of fun, because I was always trying to improve my game. Then I had this big schedule change in my labour career and now I am in this less populated league where I'm thriving and about to be promoted to elite at level 7-8 (no big merit at all, my coleagues usually do not attend races). I don't think I could be able to beat a dedicated lvl 12 team even if I were a great manager (which i'm not) just because I got promoted to elite before I even reached rookie's lvl cap.

If you don't find pleasure losing races to much more experienced managers, maybe you could search for another league with a tighter lvl spread. You mentioned that other managers left the league you're in, maybe they did just as I mentioned?

Regards