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League change penalty broken.

I have been in the same league since 2016, so have next to zero experience changing leagues.
Our league races once per week.

Because our season last about 6 months we were in between seasons when the game switched to 300pt from 200pts and at the end of our season it was recommended from our league manager to leave the league and rejoin or there would be a penalty because the switch happened between our season.

I switched to a daily league, and since it coincided with my vacation, I decided after years of once per week I would just finish the season in the daily league. I saw the penalty and deemed it ok to be competitive. Also, I would only miss 3 races in a 24 race season in my regular league, so figured I would try it.

Not only was I competitive, I won the league. At the end of the season I joined my old weekly league having missed 3 races.

After looking at how everyone has developed after 3 races, I am so far behind it’s laughable. Forget competitive, not even close. Most categories for other teams are sitting, as far as I can estimate, at over 100.

Mine are 9. 

Not only is there no way to ever catch up, but I also have 3 less races to develop for next season. Which means this season, as long as I don’t get relegated, is dead. I might as well not even play and next season will be difficult.

Add the face that it is a once per week season, that is a full year before I am back to normal. Not game year, a full real year. 

This can not be the way it is intended. 

I have been playing for so long. But this, with all honesty, is what will probably makes me stop. 
The reality is our season ends in December, and there is little reason to even bother when you are so far behind.

I don't have a suggestion, I don’t even know what one would be, but this can not be the way it was intended to work.

In the link you supplied it says

“If the new league is in a season greater than 1, then your designs will be scaled to the progress of the season. For example, if the season is in race 10, then you get "10 races of design progress", and if it's in race 16 then you get 16 races of design progress. This is applied to both the current and next season design, matching all progress to the league.”


It clearly says “matching all progress to the league”

That clearly does not happen.

Sorry, just incredibly disappointed.

Wanted to post an image to show how far behind I was, could not figure it out.

To add insult to injury. If I continue, I am so far behind I will most probably be relegated at the end of the season. After 13 years in Elite. 

Again, i dont see how this is the way it is intended to work.

So, then maybe after 7 years something should have been done.

“ We've implemented a variation of these which I believe makes switching leagues easy in a balanced and fair way.”

But your own math shows that after 3 races, most of the teams will have over 600pts of DP.
But the fair and balanced system gives a team like mine roughly 80. 

I am thinking the system is broken because it does not seem to be fair or balanced, which was the stated goal.

And since I am so far behind on everything, I am only getting 4% from research. With 21 races to go, I will never be competitive, even with the worst teams, let alone the sharp end. 

I need 30 liters of fuel more than probably anyone else will need. 

It’s obviously too late for me, I lost the season and 6 months of gameplay, But maybe a rethink is in order.

In my opinion you should just get the same number of design points that you would have gotten if you participated in all races in the previous season.

So if a level 30 player with 5 star CD would have gotten a car with 400 assigned design points at the beginning of the season for participating in all races, then a new level 30 player with 5 star CD should also get a car with 400 assigned design points. 

You would just lack the HQ points and research points. But, since you have less design points than the others you will gain a lot through research. Maybe not enough to win the championship but I think it’s fair. At max I would give like 33% of the design points your HQ produces per race you missed. So if you are level 30 and missed 3 races you should get 90/3=30 design points.

The most important thing is that the next season you should absolutely be on par with your rivals (if you joined with decent CD).

If this is the way it currently works than ok. I would just leave the league and join another one that is about to start and re-join the other one during the season break.

I ran the first race Saturday. Not nearly as bad as I thought. The “fair and balanced” system in place gave me a car that was only 25 seconds behind the leaders in the first 5 laps. 

What I find ironic about this whole situation is that Kevin’s response about avoiding a real chance at relegation in the league was to leave the league before the end and rejoin during the break. 

So this draconian system was put in place to stop some type of exploit and to make sure I don’t get relegated they recommended a different exploit. 

You honestly can’t make this stuff up.

I think the point I am trying to make is that the current system is beyond not working, it is broken. Just because people are not complaining, does not mean it’s not broken. 

Since I have not changed leagues in probably close to a decade, I had no idea the system was so bad. It also explains completely why our recruitment has been so terrible. If you don’t join in day one, you are not just behind, but might as well not even show up. That is not an exaggeration, it’s a fact.

My average stat going into race 4 is about 13-14. 
Everyone else is somewhere around 110-115

Now I understand why people would join our league and leave after the first race. There is no point in even trying. 

If leagues are worried of new drivers taking point with a few races, leagues can be set to not accept new teams. There are a few ways it can be done that is actually “fair and balanced”
This is not it.

Once again Kevin has hit the nail on the head and summed up the situation very well.  I’m sorry, but you are taking the position that the majority are wrong and you are right.  The current system while not perfect is no where near as bad as you claim it is.  As it has already been explained the situation is worse  for you since you’re completing in a once a week league.  if you are smart in assigning your research you can make some quick gains, but again racing once a week drags this out over a long period. Most managers know not to join a League once its started if they want to be competitive.  


Blaming the lack of interest in your league on this rule is silly since most leagues are struggling to attract new players and a once a week league is somewhat niche as best.

I am taking the position that the developers called this “fair and Balanced” 

Sorry, it’s not.
telling me it’s not as bad as I claim. Well that’s just not true.
My current stats vs lead team are
ACC 34 vs 150+
Bra  17 vs 125+
Cool 17 vs 125+
DF 17 vs 125 +
Han 17 vs 125+
Re 9 vs 100+
TE 17 vs 100+

I didn’t call this “Fair and Balanced” the developers did. And just because I am the first to bring this up recently does not mean it should not be looked at. 

The last race I needed to run 30 liters more fuel than the rest of the guys just to finish a race. I am 5 seconds a lap off the top 10. 

No amount or research will have me catch up. I am not saying I should join a few races in and be fighting for the lead. But maybe actually be able to race would be nice. 

At this point most of the other teams have cars 800pts plus and I have 130pt car. So yes, it’s as bad as I am saying.  

Why are we punishing mid season joining so much? 
Like I said, I have been in the same league for over a decade and only missed three races due to us needing to leave and rejoin the league. If that didn’t have to happen I never would have tried a daily league. And since I never switch, I had zero experience with the penalties involved.