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Classic Mode - 2019 Tyre Model Restored

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medal 5201 CEO & CTO
8 days ago Translate
An update to classic mode has just been applied which should take tyre heating and wear back to the 2019 configuration.

Feel free to share how it goes here. It can be tweaked as needed. I haven't been able to test this with the sim anywhere near as much as you guys will!
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medal 5456
8 days ago Translate
ok, obrigado pelo seu esforco, logo vc recebera o feedbacks.
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medal 5599
7 days ago Translate
Honestly, I don't saw any changes. Heating? Maybe. Tyre wear, same
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medal 5566
7 days ago Translate

Jack
An update to classic mode has just been applied which should take tyre heating and wear back to the 2019 configuration.

Feel free to share how it goes here. It can be tweaked as needed. I haven't been able to test this with the sim anywhere near as much as you guys will!



Hi Jack,

What do you mean? Have you gone back to the old system, where the tyres would heat up on the straights and cool down during the race? Because in my opinion, of all the changes introduced since December, that was the only one that was right and actually worked. Reading the forum and talking to other drivers, I get the impression that everyone would like to see the bugs fixed before any further changes are introduced. W2W has been a disaster both in terms of functionality and visual effect (three cars racing side by side for entire laps, randomly getting in each other’s way!!). The game is losing managers every day; continuing to change everything without a clear vision (or so it seems to many of us) isn’t helping to improve things. We’re asking you to fix what we have actualy and then, if necessary, introduce new features.
P.S.: I’ve just raced with the new tyre management system: a complete disaster... everyone at push level 5 to avoid icy tyres! 
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medal 5201 CEO & CTO
7 days ago
Indeed, that is what it means, the old tyre system from an update in 2019. I've created a poll:

https://igpmanager.com/forum-thread/65505

This can easily be reverted so cast your vote and get anyone playing in your league to vote as well.
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medal 5103
7 days ago

Jack
An update to classic mode has just been applied which should take tyre heating and wear back to the 2019 configuration.

Feel free to share how it goes here. It can be tweaked as needed. I haven't been able to test this with the sim anywhere near as much as you guys will!



Hi Jack, does this mean the 50% cliff for tyre wear which came in in 2022 is also gone?
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medal 5599
6 days ago Translate

Marco
Hi Jack, does this mean the 50% cliff for tyre wear which came in in 2022 is also gone?



After race in Italy i can confirm no changes are done to classic mode 
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medal 5201 CEO & CTO
6 days ago

Sergiy
After race in Italy i can confirm no changes are done to classic mode 

Indeed, I think the wear is not working. In classic mode, do you want the 50% cliff gone? Back to 2019 tyre wear? It can be done.
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medal 5103
6 days ago
Jack
Indeed, I think the wear is not working. In classic mode, do you want the 50% cliff gone? Back to 2019 tyre wear? It can be done.



I definitely would prefer the tyre cliff gone. The best race I remember without refueling was back in 2022 at Catalunya where one manager pitted very early and ran 2 mediums stints to the finish. He did a brilliant job to undercut and hold on to the other leaders. Removing the cliff removes a cap on stint length so adds more strategic variety. A plus in my opinion.
Jack
An update to classic mode has just been applied which should take tyre heating and wear back to the 2019 configuration.

Feel free to share how it goes here. It can be tweaked as needed. I haven't been able to test this with the sim anywhere near as much as you guys will!



Hi Jack, does this mean the 50% cliff for tyre wear which came in in 2022 is also gone?
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medal 5599
6 days ago Translate

Jack
Indeed, I think the wear is not working. In classic mode, do you want the 50% cliff gone? Back to 2019 tyre wear? It can be done.



I want you to stop making changes every 5 minutes, and leave this as additional option for classic mode, or better don't touch or change anything 
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medal 5103
6 days ago
Having just done a race, they tyre heating was terrible compared to what it was since the previous update. I would abolsutely rather have that. Wear is a non-factor so long as the tyre cliff exists.
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medal 5043 Moderator
5 days ago
Looks like something's still off with the tyre model in Cassic then, Bahrain with those long straights, and usually higher temps during day, wasn't a track that had issues getting temp into a tyre. The old tyres also had a cliff, though it was around 40% and more a increasing slope, then little step and followed by a steep continous slope, slightly mitigated at first by temps allowing raising average push with most compound/track combinations.
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medal 5103
5 days ago
Possibly. I think that the old tyre model for temperature is inferior/incorrect though. Tyre temperature is generated by putting loads through the tyres in the corners. The change to this was a massive improvement, so it's a shame to go back to the old model.

The way temps worked with generating in the corners and cooling on the straights was far better than the inverse.
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medal 5043 Moderator
5 days ago
It's difficult, both have their benefits. The new is more realistic, but more relaxing and putting more weight on general car development, strategy and broader PL tactics. The old was weird, more engaging, even hectic sometimes on 2x with 2cars and better second by second PL choices made a big difference.
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medal 5566
5 days ago Translate
I find it completely unnatural to have to set the push level to 1 every time I come out of a corner. The 2026 model, as well as being more realistic, has made it much more enjoyable to follow the race and assess strategies based on what your rivals are doing. Before that change, you’d play by just watching the push level bar, and there were oddities like Monza where you’d spend almost the entire lap on push level 1, Hungary in winter where it was impossible to get the tyres up to temperature, or other nonsensical races at Monaco and Istanbul.
The new model has definitely improved the game; I think it’s the only thing the community has reacted positively to, and even the most sceptical have appreciated it.
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medal 5201 CEO & CTO
5 days ago
I agree with all of you, and nobody publicly has supported the 2019 model, and yet in the poll the 2019 tyre model has +1 vote over 2026. Odd.

I think adding sub-options is too complicated. I would prefer to revert to the 2026 tyres with 2019 racing, personally.
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medal 5103
5 days ago

Jack
I agree with all of you, and nobody publicly has supported the 2019 model, and yet in the poll the 2019 tyre model has +1 vote over 2026. Odd.

I think adding sub-options is too complicated. I would prefer to revert to the 2026 tyres with 2019 racing, personally.



I think if no one supports the 2019 tyre heating model if is best to have the 2026 tyre heating model with the 2019 racing in classic mode. I'm still an advocate of no tyre cliff as it was in 2019, but obviously sorting teething issues is more important than introducing new features.
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medal 5566
4 days ago Translate

Jack
I agree with all of you, and nobody publicly has supported the 2019 model, and yet in the poll the 2019 tyre model has +1 vote over 2026. Odd.

I think adding sub-options is too complicated. I would prefer to revert to the 2026 tyres with 2019 racing, personally.



I think the poll wasn’t very visible; very few people voted. Perhaps not everyone is clear on the differences between the two models, which is why so few people voted. I don’t think I know all the differences myself.

Certainly, everyone appreciated the cooling-off period on the straights; this allows you to follow the race at a more relaxed pace and results in a much more realistic simulation.
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medal 5201 CEO & CTO
4 days ago
I will revert it tomorrow.
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