Suggested

cancel the last update

you should cancel the last update that make the competition even harder for small players but instead make a new update so we can put a minimum or maximum level to enter a league. the competition is unfair right now. some just keep win or other keep lose. 

we cannot improve our cars when we just keep lose reputation and credits. it is boring for those who just keep win against weak players and also for those who just keep lose and have no chance to win or improve thier cars. for sure those who keep win wont complain too much probably. personally i would be bored just keep win with no fighting and no competition. the game need a big chnge.

the update make our drivers bad because now they have not enough weight. those who had bad drivers are now good. it just make no sense. again this will help the bigger players to get even stronger. the level 30 make it harder for small players that keep lose and have problems improving and also the ability that you need to spend 100 credit for is ridiculous and give an advantage to the money spending players which is not good competition.

I could imagine that the league leaders would continue to set their own rules for a balanced manager strength in her league. Such as drivers only with a maximum level of frequent/common.
But who knows how deep the difference would be of common to legend.

And I hope that now there is enough income to fix some bugs as a matter of priority.

I would also like to see more variety. Racing always lasts for a season. But this is a game and you could also try to introduce other competitions that don't necessarily have anything to do with reality.
(I have already made a suggestion for a  competition for a long time ago)

When I read through some of the other suggestions, I fear that the game will only drift into pay to win.

You're right, this update was mostly negative, and not so positive, but I think it isn't necessary to cancel it, because there are some good idea, just a bit fix the fouls.

I think it was a problem, that the old players cannot do anything with their money and token, but I don't think it's a solution to add 10 more levels, because the new players may won't stay long, because the way from the level 1 to the level 30 is very long, maybe 2 or 3 years and the old players have a big advantage in it.
May it would be a better solution to add small things, whitin they can compete, and for what they can pay money/token to each other without get too big advantage against the news and it could be may seasonable...

For it, it was a quite good idea to start an engine supplier, but I think not totally this way...
As I have written in some previous suggestion, the customers have too big advantage against the suppliers (they don't have to listen and pay, but the same result..., you can read my opinion there). I've written as a suggestion the suppliers to can break the contract, and make more details, like % of the original engine, like in real life... (They're thinking on it) and maybe to pay with token to help the developing of the suppliers...
Now I think it's possible it will be enough the two first suggestions, but I see an another problem: it isn't infinitive, it will have an end (where I think the engines will be too strong), and it goes too slow forward.
My suggestion would be to change it to a seasonable (we would have to start this only once) thing, within we could develop it in every 1-2-3... month/season and more points to develop it, but maybe in a similar way.

And for last one, I find it a really good idea to give the drivers special abilities, not to be the all the same...
But I think the 100-150 and 200 token (the old players have again a huge advantage) is very much, and in this fast world really slow to get, and it's available in the transfers for much less money. And I would do it maybe with 1 or more area, where his possible maximum number is bigger...

If i'm right, my suggestions aren't so good for the budget, but I think nobody need it to be a pay to win game... But I've never understood, why the owners don't make real contract with the sponsors and the suppliers, I think they would be open for this, because I think at the time the game has a quite big player community, so I think there would be some other option to get more money, and I could imagine even a separate league type for the players, who use real money to develop their account...

I know very well we have to train now to get weight. It dont change what i said at all.

What you said is completely wrong though.  It is not harder for lower levels to progress it is much easier as you can progress faster than higher level players.  Why do you think reputation has anything to do with progression?

You clearly have a limited understanding of how the game works if you truly think that ??????. The xp booster makes very little difference to anyone,  but as lower level managers gain xp quicker than higher level players again this will just help them more than higher level players.

As usual "top level" players are missing the reason why lower level players are complaining. You cannot progress faster if you don't lose against higher level players.


This game forces players having lower levels to lose against higher level players and that's the reason why I think it will implode.
There will be new levels every now and then, the old players base will flood money in iGP pockets but on long term new players will quit and the old players base will shrink.

Outside the race simulator (where there are no developers at the moment), the priority should have been the league structure but we had new levels which made it worse.

Continue laughing like a 30 yo athlete against 15 yo kids who complain about unfair competition while this beautiful games slowly dies.

This is a bit confusing. Are you saying you expect a lower level account to be able to beat a top account?


If not, what exactly do you mean? Can you elaborate?

Sorry Giovanni but progressing through the Manager levels has nothing do do with success or otherwise in a race.  The rate of xp earned by a lower level player racing in a league with higher level players has always been greater than that earned by the higher level players.  The way the new update works the lower level payer will earn it even more quickly so eventually they will catch up.


The rest of what you say is completely different to the subject of the thread and something I do have some sympathy with and a restructuring of leagues is long overdue.  Hopefully any increase in revenue will enable them to employ someone to take on this task.  Jack is the only developer atm so you need to get real and stop making unrealistic demands.

No, I mean that now in elite tiers you can find level 13 against level 21 and there is no competition. As is, the game does nothing to allow smaller teams to fight for higher positions. When you are 3 levels below the top players, you can do something satisfying during a season but when the difference is too high, your seasons are anonimous. You are condmned to lose.

Restructuring leagues to something fairer where you face players with similar skills (and levels) is a must.

When I was level 9-12 against level 16-18, I have been close to quit this game. 7 levels of difference is too much... You feel like your car is a different category, like you must lose and there is no other possibility.

I know what you are ready to say: promotion cap. No, I answer because it moves the problem in lower tiers and stops the progression of players who deserved it.

You are overestimating the impact of the new levels.  21 is not as big a jump from 20:as 19 is from 20 and the time it will take to progress to higher levels is much longer so you won’t find anyone racing through the new levels anytime soon.


Your response about league caps doesn’t make much sense (at least to me).  How can a level cap push the problem to lower tiers when you all you seem concerned about is the unfairness of lvl 20’s and above?  If Elite was capped at 20 and Pro at say 14 or 15 then the racing in those  leagues would be closer and no one would have to compete in the Elite tier until they were both experienced enough and a high enough level to be competitive (or least a sense of competing as I still believe that some level 20’s are on a different level to the average 20. Take a look at leagues like Project Leyandas, DWC and I guarantee the average 20 would struggle to compete). Maybe there is a theoretical case for a tier above Elite, but this would be impractical currently until the player base is bigger and current level 21s have progressed further up the new tier structure.

As far saying it would prevent promotion to those who deserve it I’m not sure why you believe this. At the moment most Pro tiers are full of a couple of active players and inactive or bot accounts so not sure what anyone has done that is as you call deserving.  Unless the restructure is so radical that the concept of rookie, pro, elite no longer exists then finding ways to make the Pro have both activity and longevity of managers is crucial.  Certainly getting promoted to Elite at levels to 11-13 is unrealistic and part of the current problem.  The trouble is the same people who complain it’s not fair racing are usually the same who complain about suggestions about introducing caps.

I’d just like to correct something thats been said here. and try and provide some information.

First the correction:

With the new xp formula communicated the other day, new players do not gain more xp than high level managers. They earn the same as the highest level in their league: However as the gaps between levels are not consistent, this does allow lower level manager to cross the early levels quickly and to close the level gap. But technology will lag behind for a while.

And information:

Also I’m not sure if it’s been clearly stated anywhere but 20 vs 13 now is not the same as 20 vs 13 pre update.

DRS and Boost at level 20 now should be less effective than before the update. Level 30 DRS and boost is equal to the old level 20 and nobody has level 30 yet. If we assume that this is rescaled in a straight line then right now level 20/21 managers have roughly Level 13/14 technology. And a level 14 manager will have about former level 9 boost. The gaps between teams are slightly smaller at the moment.

Overall once people get back to level 30 the gap between level 1 and level 30 will be the same as it always was but right now the range of completion should be narrower.

What is unbalancing everything right now from what I can see is the drivers and those who have been able to get hold of talent 30’s currently have an advantage. This should ease over time.

I don’t know if any of this will ease any of your concerns but information is all I have sorry.

ok maybe im wrong on reputation but lose credits each race dont help for sure. reputation do go up if you win races so weak player who keep lose wont have reputation improvements much. i am not the only who think this new update do make the game even harder for new players. having more levels dont help anything.