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Chassis Supplier - Update 3

medal 5082
5 days ago Translate
Ja kompletter Müll....hoffentlich hören alle auf zu spielen 
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medal 5317
5 days ago

Allan
Yes - it looks like on my screens I am still doing my own chassis. Looking at my supplier I do see they were supplying me, so I guess they are. But nothing on my page suggests that. 

And when you say choose parts. What is this?  

The developers of this game have really dropped the ball here. Probably the most chaotic and incompetent release possible!



Basically you're supposed to be able to see six possible parts on the supplier page, (Front Wing, Rear Wing, Middle, Drivetrain, Suspension, and Electronics) and each of them give you a boost in certain attributes. You are able to select two of those parts to assign to your car. So unlike being an engine customer, you have full control over how the supplier upgrades your car. By clicking/tapping the icon for these parts, a checkmark will appear indicating that you selected it. You can always change these selections at any time to adapt different bonuses for different tracks by deselecting the ones wish to change, then selecting another part.


I think it's a little bit of a glitch, but from what I'm hearing, selecting a part also simultaneously opens a summary menu showing the boost values. These are meant to be available to the customer as well, but it seems like the game can't differentiate between someone choosing a part and wanting to review the bonuses. So both happen at the same time, and you'll have to close the summary menu in order to select another part.
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medal 5317
5 days ago

HCR
Final Update !!! 🤖👊
See my 1st interaction at page 1. 


That wasn't insignificant to me. I like you No No. Take care.


I see now and understand your position more clearly after reading your updated post. I very much feel the same way as you in terms of the devs making a change because of players threatening to leave the game. Getting chassis customers is very much a game of luck with a lot of "grinding"...though the easiest kind of grinding ever in video games. Just using the chat/IM feature to talk to people... I could go on for a very long time about the extremely anti-social trend across most video games these days in spite of increased popularity and the impact of "e-sports", but that's a discussion better suited for a full length video blog.

However, from the player's perspective of iGP, there was a tremendous fumble in terms of communication with the players. Nobody knew what they were investing in when purchasing the chassis supplier system, but expected something familiar enough to the engine supplier update. The big difference that seems to have upset a lot of people is that acquiring engine customers was optional (though I would highly recommend it in order to make a profit on your car while also making the grind for leveling up easier on newer players), whereas for the chassis update, customers were required to improve the chassis at all. None of that was explained in the first place, placing the devs in a difficult position and forcing their hand on a decision they didn't want to make.

With that said, I actually see one benefit to the changes put in place. Chassis suppliers are now able to acquire a surplus of customers. This can be very beneficial in case someone becomes an inactive player and leaves the league they are in without warning. Imagine telling your customers who are asking when the next upgrade comes that you are one race away from the next upgrade, only for someone to stop playing the game before your race takes place, leaving you one point short of the purchase. Now you have to explain that someone left the team, potentially lowering the confidence of your remaining customers.

For that reason, I will actually choose to keep a surplus of customers because the reality of the market is exactly as you said in your marketing plan. There's only so many possible customers that can be acquired, a finite market size if you will. And you never know if someone else already has a chassis supplier unless they tell you.
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medal 5098
5 days ago

No
Basically you're supposed to be able to see six possible parts on the supplier page, (Front Wing, Rear Wing, Middle, Drivetrain, Suspension, and Electronics) and each of them give you a boost in certain attributes. You are able to select two of those parts to assign to your car. So unlike being an engine customer, you have full control over how the supplier upgrades your car. By clicking/tapping the icon for these parts, a checkmark will appear indicating that you selected it. You can always change these selections at any time to adapt different bonuses for different tracks by deselecting the ones wish to change, then selecting another part.


I think it's a little bit of a glitch, but from what I'm hearing, selecting a part also simultaneously opens a summary menu showing the boost values. These are meant to be available to the customer as well, but it seems like the game can't differentiate between someone choosing a part and wanting to review the bonuses. So both happen at the same time, and you'll have to close the summary menu in order to select another part.

I am supposed to pick parts? I signed up as a customer, was accepted, got an email telling me of the gains, but can’t even find where I would even look at my supplier, let alone pick parts.

Where does it indicate you are a client and the supplier name? 
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medal 5317
4 days ago
Vincent
I am supposed to pick parts? I signed up as a customer, was accepted, got an email telling me of the gains, but can’t even find where I would even look at my supplier, let alone pick parts.

Where does it indicate you are a client and the supplier name? 



Because I'm a supplier I might be wrong since I can't see it for myself but it seems that you would need to visit the chassis supplier page again with the same link you used to get to the application page.


At least I hope it works that way since the customers who have made their choices needed me to send them the link again.

And I don't see any way to tell if someone is already a customer of another team. In fact, I don't see an indicator on the team page to say that someone is a chassis supplier.
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medal 5098
4 days ago

No
Because I'm a supplier I might be wrong since I can't see it for myself but it seems that you would need to visit the chassis supplier page again with the same link you used to get to the application page.


At least I hope it works that way since the customers who have made their choices needed me to send them the link again.

And I don't see any way to tell if someone is already a customer of another team. In fact, I don't see an indicator on the team page to say that someone is a chassis supplier.



I clicked on a link in the forums to apply. I then got an email letting me know I was approved, but no link. 


On my manufacturer page, I only have the same option to pay to become a manufacturer, other then the email I received, no indication I am a client. 

I would need to go back and find the manufacturer on the forums to even remember who I chose. 

I don’t think this is the way it is meant to work. 
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medal 5295
4 days ago
I don’t really understand why chassis supply is a option now no point in developing it like engines if you only supply yourself and can’t get any more development points to boost your team 
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medal 5118
4 days ago Translate
Pls use the translation botton.
Hola chicos este mensaje le mandé a uno de mis clientes, "necesito que configures el chasis, para configurarlo tienes que ir a comunidad, fabricantes, fabricantes de chasis, buscas 74 Red Bull Racing Fly Emirates, le das al chasis, seleccionas centro y trasera y por último le das a guardar"
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medal 5098
4 days ago

Juan
Pls use the translation botton.
Hola chicos este mensaje le mandé a uno de mis clientes, "necesito que configures el chasis, para configurarlo tienes que ir a comunidad, fabricantes, fabricantes de chasis, buscas 74 Red Bull Racing Fly Emirates, le das al chasis, seleccionas centro y trasera y por último le das a guardar"



Yes, that worked.

I looked at the initial email sent from the supplier, got there name and did a search under manufactures.

But why am I choosing developments? How am I supposed to know what everyone else is doing g . Is t that the point of having a manufacturer? They do the work and we pay them for it?

Also, having to search to find it makes no sense, your engine and chassis supplier should come up under the car tab. 
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medal 5317
4 days ago

Vincent
Yes, that worked.

I looked at the initial email sent from the supplier, got there name and did a search under manufactures.

But why am I choosing developments? How am I supposed to know what everyone else is doing g . Is t that the point of having a manufacturer? They do the work and we pay them for it?

Also, having to search to find it makes no sense, your engine and chassis supplier should come up under the car tab. 



You're only choosing the parts you want to use on your car and you can't see what any other team has picked from their supplier. On the other side, the supplier is developing the chassis.

What else were you able to see on your supplier's page, if anything, in addition to selecting the parts? 
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medal 5268
4 days ago
HCR
In communities and games that have existed for 10+ years, the same pattern repeats itself over and over: the long-term players are the ones who tolerate complexity, friction, learning curves, and delayed rewards, while the loudest complainers are often the least invested in the long run. They complain, get the system softened, and many of them still leave a few months later anyway. While the people who actually sustained the game are the ones who quietly (not so quietly sometimes 🤖) disappear.



Yep. I’d be really sad seeing you leave the game 
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medal 5118
4 days ago Translate
Vincent
Yes, that worked.

I looked at the initial email sent from the supplier, got there name and did a search under manufactures.

But why am I choosing developments? How am I supposed to know what everyone else is doing g . Is t that the point of having a manufacturer? They do the work and we pay them for it?

Also, having to search to find it makes no sense, your engine and chassis supplier should come up under the car tab. 


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Mira, yo siempre mando un correo con la mejoras del chasis que hago a todos mis clientes y de hecho hoy no hice mejoras por qué no tengo los suficientes puntos de chasis, entonces mandé un correo explicando el por qué no hice mejoras, y está vez les mandé el correo para que ellos puedan optar que mejora es mejor, al tener 8 clientes si hay empate simplemente elegiré la que más me parece a mí pero si no hay empate pues mejoro la que más votos tenga, a continuación te dejaré el mensaje:
"Mejoras de chasis"
Hola, soy tu proveedor de chasis como pudieron notar hoy no habrá mejora del chasis... Por qué?? Por el simple hecho de que no me alcanzan los puntos data la siguiente mejora es a los 20 y actualmente tengo 19, necesito que todos mis clientes contesten este mensaje, mañana se mejorará el chasis y ustedes elegirán que mejorar, 1 mejorar un 0.5% en el rendimiento de todas las piezas del chasis, o 2 ahorrarme 50k por cliente es decir 400k y además bonificación del 2% de investigación, espero respuesta de todos mis clientes, saludos...
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medal 5474
4 days ago Translate
Podríais mirar cual es el problema de conexión para las carreras en 2d desde mi pc, en la liga; FERNANDO CHAMPION 2...No puedo entrar en vivo en ninguna de mis dos cuentas pero si puedo ver otras carreras y hace un año me ocurrió lo mismo y después de chorizarme 120 TK se arreglo cuando se os puso de los cojonesy y no me devolvisteis mi dinero.
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medal 5292
4 days ago
I’ve been trying to become a customer with a friend in the league, but unfortunately the “apply” button is gone… I contacted him and he also doesn’t know why or what’s going on… Is this another bug?
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medal 5241
3 days ago (Last edited by Javier Fernández Jr 3 days ago) Translate
Jack
A new hybrid approach to chassis data has been introduced for the Chassis Supplier system in response to your feedback. Several managers reported concerns about farming and difficulty finding customers. This change is intended to address these concerns.

Each Supply Hub will generate +2 Chassis Data, with each customer adding +1 Chassis Data. The total remains capped at 10 per race.
This means even a team with no customers can generate 2-6 Chassis Data per race via their Supply Hubs. Teams with 8+ customers and 1 Supply Hub will also generate 10 Chassis Data per race, so teams who worked to get 10 customers already will not be disadvantaged. There are many ways to balance it now, e.g. 3 supply hubs and 4 customers also works. This allows teams who can't find customers to catch up over time. This also creates an opportunity to spread costs over time with customers or to accelerate it with hubs.

"Freeze" Chassis Supplier to cease trading chassis
Teams can now cease supplying chassis. This will end all customer contracts immediately and leave the feature in a state where you can re-activate it at any time for free. This is accessed under the "..." menu.

Previous updates:
Update 2
Update 1



So, the max is 10. When we get 3 centers we finish the contract with 6 clients becouse is more money to spend and same points of data.

Is not the Solutions 

And i have one question more: What win the provider? Only investigation percent? A lot of money spend for only some point of investigation only?
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medal 5545
3 days ago

Uncle
I also deactivated the chassis, now it asks me for 100mil to open it.


I did not receive a refund for deactivating it.



Can we please get an answer on if this is a bug and what will be done about it?
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medal 5411
1 day ago Translate
Hi Jack, actually... What is the goal of the chassis?

Because after upgrading the perk to obtain +5% in research ability, I realised being a chassis provider is pointless and actually detrimental.

Once you get the +5% research power... You are left with:

- a chassis you can provide to other players, but not yourself.

- all perks you unlock benefit others, not you, you depend on other manager chassis.

- even with 3 centers giving 6 chassis points and 4 clients, you lose 1.2M per race with all discount perks applied.

- what is the point of farming chassis points now? I already got the only useful perk for me (+5% research power). Of course I can keep improving my chassis for others to enjoy, providing me zero benefits and -1.2M daily ;).

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Now, some proposals:

1. The chassis should provide some surplus money when having enough clients, just like it happens with the engines. At the moment with 3 active facilities, having more than 4 clients is a waste of money.

2. Being able to use your own chassis. THIS IS KEY!

3.There is sure room for improvement in the ability tree. Facility improvements  could be permanent, but specific perks to certain areas of the chassis could reset with each seasin. This would force managers to develop their chassis in a certain way trying new builds and allocating points in a smart way.  Of course rebalancing of points cost would be needed.

3 is just an idea, but 1&2 are a must! Otherwise I am contemplating firing all my clients as it is not benefiting me at all and only costing me money every race.
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medal 5320
1 day ago
Agree with we should be able to use our own chassis, same as we have with engines 
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medal 4966 Moderator
1 day ago
A chassis manufacturer uses the own chassis, given the manager has 2 parts selected, just like customers.

A chassis supplier can't be customer of another team, if this is possible it's due to a bug.

The point is supplying your customers and own team with a chassis giving bonus DP, and a research bonus for the own team.

1. I somewhat agree, the extend depending on 3, because with (partial) reset chassis points remain of value. Without customers need to provide something more, like some profit, as incentive to keep once the chassis is done. Or giving the choice data or money.

2. If the team is not bugged (also external chassis) that's already the case.

3. I agree, however a system changing things a little bit every season, so it's not just redoing the same every season, would be nice.
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medal 5290
7 hours ago Translate

Jack
A new hybrid approach to chassis data has been introduced for the Chassis Supplier system in response to your feedback. Several managers reported concerns about farming and difficulty finding customers. This change is intended to address these concerns.

Each Supply Hub will generate +2 Chassis Data, with each customer adding +1 Chassis Data. The total remains capped at 10 per race.
This means even a team with no customers can generate 2-6 Chassis Data per race via their Supply Hubs. Teams with 8+ customers and 1 Supply Hub will also generate 10 Chassis Data per race, so teams who worked to get 10 customers already will not be disadvantaged. There are many ways to balance it now, e.g. 3 supply hubs and 4 customers also works. This allows teams who can't find customers to catch up over time. This also creates an opportunity to spread costs over time with customers or to accelerate it with hubs.

"Freeze" Chassis Supplier to cease trading chassis
Teams can now cease supplying chassis. This will end all customer contracts immediately and leave the feature in a state where you can re-activate it at any time for free. This is accessed under the "..." menu.

Previous updates:
Update 2
Update 1



Bonjour.

Il faudrait créer un raccourci donnant accès au chassi depuis l onglet de la voiture.. comme pour les moteur ou pneu! Parce que la a chaque fois aller dans communauté et rechercher le fournisseur manuellement c'est pas très pratique.
Merci
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