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Ran out of fuel without attending

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Stephen H medal 5000
10 years 21 days ago
Race links (of both drivers):
http://igpmanager.com/play/?url=race-result/536157/66890
http://igpmanager.com/play/?url=race-result/536157/366270

I attended the first 6 laps of the race and then I quit. Looking back at the race results, I ran out of fuel on the last lap (lap 53). How is that possible? They are supposed to auto-pit if the fuel isn't enough.

I'm posting the amount of fuel left below:
End of lap 46: Pitted, filled to 32 litres
Lap 47: 27.3L
Lap 48: 22.8L
Lap 49: 18.2L
Lap 50: 13.7L
Lap 51: 9.1L
Lap 52: 4.5L
Lap 53: out of fuel

I have been filling to 32L for many stints before this. I understand that this maybe due to the position of the pit box relative to the finish line, but shouldn't the driver pit on lap 52 to refuel?
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Jack Basford medal 5170 CEO & CTO
10 years 21 days ago
The drivers wil try to push it if they think they can make it. This is probably more a symptom of the cars retiring immediately than anything, rather than rolling to a standstill. It looks as though they might have made it to the line if they rolled, and the drivers maybe thought they could make it anyway. It was clearly on the wire, as on previous laps we can see you used 4.5L of fuel and had 4.5L coming in to the final lap.

The lap before last was 4.6 though, so quite possibly the drivers were trying to get to the finish with 4.5L of fuel when really they needed 4.55 or something in that region. It happens sometimes, but it really sucks when it happens.

It's tricky because people also complain when the drivers pit on the last lap just as much as they complain about running out of fuel. We try to keep people happy by allowing the drivers to make an educated guess, and sometimes they get it wrong (they are AI). If you run it that close to the wire then there is always a risk of a DNF or extra stop. I would recommend putting an extra litre of fuel in for future.
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Raj Rupakheti medal 5000
10 years 21 days ago
Okay. In this case though I would have preferred an extra stop so I could finish P3 and P4 and not P9 and P10...

It sounds like the coding allows a few degrees of freedom for the driver to choose whether to pit or not when it's close?

Would definitely be helpful if I have the csv file to check 2 digits after the decimal, but I am subscribed with another account, not this (the account that started the thread) one.
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James Greer medal 5000
10 years 21 days ago
I'm an expert in fine margins I run out of fuel lots of times. If there was rewards for messing up I would get gold lol
Auto-pit comes on I switch it off, cross my fingers & toes, then pray I'm right & the race engineer is wrong.
No matter how much peoples complain I would like to see it staying.

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Daniele Gelpi medal 5000
9 years 226 days ago Translate
it happened to me too.
http://igpmanager.com/play/?url=race-result/568516/273492
http://igpmanager.com/play/?url=race-result/568522/273492

if i watch the race there's no problem, but if i can't i'll automaticly lose. Every race that i've not watched my driver didn't came in to the box

i don't understand why. my car has some fuel left but it's stops anyway for fuel

Please help me, i can't watch every race.

Daniele
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Joey McLane medal 5000
9 years 226 days ago
If you cannot watch a race and you know you will be close on fuel you'd better to add 1L.
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Nelson Kumaga medal 5000
9 years 226 days ago Translate
"Joey
If you cannot watch a race and you know you will be close on fuel you'd better to add 1L.

What he said. Sometimes the fuel jumps from 4.5 to 4.6(italy for example) on the same push level on a lap, so to be sure just add 1L. And the extra liter would barely make a difference anyway.
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Daniele Gelpi medal 5000
9 years 226 days ago Translate
"Joey
If you cannot watch a race and you know you will be close on fuel you'd better to add 1L.

But if you watch at the result that i posted, i still have some fuel.
my driver just didn't came in
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Joey McLane medal 5000
9 years 226 days ago
I cannot see your fuel it's something hidden to other players and don't forget start/finish line is not at the same place than your pit.
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Nelson Kumaga medal 5000
9 years 226 days ago Translate
Also on low fuel drivers make their own decision to pit or not. Drivers with low decision, like yours I guess, will probably make the wrong decision. For instance, if the fuel is 3.8 a lap and you only have 3.7-3.9 fuel left, some drivers make the decision to pit or carry on.
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Daniele Gelpi medal 5000
9 years 225 days ago Translate
"Joey
I cannot see your fuel it's something hidden to other players and don't forget start/finish line is not at the same place than your pit.

oh sorry i didn't know that.on the first one there was 2.4 and in the second one there was 1.8 litres left.i mean i always use the calculator and add some fuel, but if they don't pit what can i do? :(
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Joey McLane medal 5000
9 years 225 days ago
The best is to avoid the limit where the driver can take the wrong decision ..
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