Tyre Management Skill?

Hey all,

Is there a tyre management skill for drivers?

My driver seems to heat up and wear through his tyres quicker than the other drivers in the field. Typically I have my push level set to "be consistent" and this usually works fine. However, there are times, such as in my recently completed race in Bahrain, where my tyres were so far off the chart compared to the leading drivers. I had the lead for the first 3 laps, but once second place went past I was falling off at 3-5 seconds per lap... 

So - the original question - is there a skill that relates to tyre management? 

Not for the drivers, no. Tyre management is up to you, the manager.

The idea is to not let them heat up too much. Try and keep them grey. 3/5 is too much at Bahrain. With softs at Bahrain you need to run 1/5, and even on 1/5 they will start to overheat.

That is not really correct Enos.

Every driver has a "tyre management skill". Some drivers heat up their tyres very fast which also includes that they wear them down faster and some don't.
Of course there is no attribute "tyre management skill" but I can tell you that some attributes definetly effect the behavior of the tyres.

I have never noticed any driver since day 1 heating their tyres up faster than the other, nor do they seem to wear differently?....... Unless I've always had two drivers who are perfectly even in this respect.

I've noticed difference in pace coming out the gate, which I always put down to aggression or some other statistics, but their tyres definitely don't appear to heat up any faster on my screen nor do they wear faster o.O

Believe me, there is a difference.
It also depends on the track and the temperature. You can notice differences in tyre wear and tyre heat.

It's not that I don't believe you, I'm just saying what I've noticed. All of my drivers have seemed to heat their tyres up exactly the same as each other, and 99% of the time they show the exact same wear every lap? I have the odd lap where it will show 1% different to the other driver, but then the next lap is 1% less and it always seems to end up the same over the whole stint. Interesting info though, I'm going to keep a closer eye on it now. Cheers Nico :)

Back to the OP though - Yes your push level will affect how fast your tyres heat up. If you run 5/5 your tyres will heat up very fast, and 1/5 or 2/5 will take a while. If you're a subscriber you should be changing your push level to suit - Just keep and eye on your tyre temps and stop them overheating. Red tyres is never a good idea, and blue is just as bad at times. Try to keep them cooler. I can only assume if your pace is dropping off as much as you say it is then you're severely overheating your tyres.

Thanks for the response guys. I think I need to look at the push levels I use to try and keep the tyres in order. Would be good to be around to manage the tyres each race, but unfortunately is not the case.. :S

What attributes must be trained so that the driver get the tires up to temperature quicker and less stress?

Does the driver tyre management trait really exist? I race multiple drivers around the same circuit at the same time and never notice any difference to wear and heat. This is with a season + of data. I doubt there is a driver trait and it's simply management. Unless the 4 different drivers have the same level of tyre management, which would be statisically unlikely. I'd like to know your evidence for this, as mine says completely the opposite - it's all down to management, not the driver.

This is exactly my point Kade. I've never seen drivers heat their tyres up differently. In fact I've seen 24 drivers in a race heat their tyres up identically on 5/5 push softs. Never once have I seen variation between drivers.

Just as I said.
There is a difference. It is not easy to see but if you watch races you can see that some drivers heat up their tyres a litte bit faster than others even if they are running on the same push level.
On one side that is good because the faster the tyres get to their ideal temp the faster you drive. On the other side the warmer the tyre gets the more it wears down.
I'm not speaking about 10% in tyre wear but there are some differences. I already noticed that some drivers will run at the end of the stint slower than mine because they warmed up their tyres faster than I did (on the same push level) which indicates that their tyre are more worn than mine.
I can definetly say that because I looked through the race logs and saw that there are differences.

Are they on equally developed cars? KERS/DRS?

Using KERS and DRS as well as having a more advanced car will heat up the tyres faster due to faster speeds. I'm still skeptical, I've never seen a difference between 2 similar cars when KERS and DRS aren't involved. I'd be tempted to guess that the difference you are noting is due to development/drs/kers rather than driver skill.

I guess we can agree to disagree, but I'm firmly in the "it's a management thing" camp.

Believe me or don't.
I'm a developer just as Andrew and I can see through the code which shows what I told.
There are differences and that's the point.

Are you an iGP developer (I thought that was only Andrew and Jack)? If so, touchè, if not, then your development experience doesn't make your analysis any more valid than my analysis. If you've got real evidence to back your claims, let determine this. I have a race tomorrow where I can grab the data from and be sure I've got cars with the same strategy, same conditions and the same rough development level. They do however, have vastly different driver skills and levels. I'll note the data and post it here tomorrow. I'm not claiming i'm 100% right, it's just my experience and observation over mutliple seasons with multiple cars in the same conditions that tyre management is down the the manager. If it's proved otherwise, for either of us, that can only help us tactically in future. It's one way to end speculation (short of developmer confirmation).

That said, if there are tyre management skills, it'd be good for them to have greater effect as right now it seems minimal to non-existant.

I'm an iGP developer. Even though I have the title of a moderator.
I already fixed some smaller bugs which will be implemented with the next update.

But can this train, to heat up faster?

Yes the attributes which effect the tyre heat are trainable.

Sometimes you can see this, though it won't be that noticeable between your two drivers usually, because you probably train them similarly. I've certainly noticed quite a change in heating up tyres from rookie to elite. When one of my friends had a team, I was watching his races as well as mine, and his drivers (being a lot lower level, and stats) would heat up their tyres slower than that of my drivers.

Maybe it was an impression, because they were further back down the road and thus traveled less distance for tires to heat up.

Nice :) But under which category?
Mental, Attack, Defending, Speed or Technical?