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iGP Manager 26: New League System Explained

Nice ! Would any existing league qualify for that discount automatically? In every tier or just the gold tier?

Associated (established) leagues under the one host could be paid for from the main league with an overall control box from the main host rather than individually hosted. I think the calendar control, x amount of days of the week for established leagues should be left alone to be honest, it would just mean defining the longevity and population of (without alts and in-actives) where 6 leagues may have to be cut down to 4, for example. 

You could implement some advertising like ad banners on the league/s that need to be clicked on and opened before getting to the setup or car management tabs, or advertising videos to watch when they log-in for example in lieu of payment other than the main host league.

 



 

I think these prices, which while are accumulative, are still too much, at least disproportionate of where the game is. I grasp the need to urgently help the game, to develop new perks to incentivise further, like the flywheel Jack mentioned. But initially, to keep running our league (same rules for 9 years straight of 100%, 2x, Refuelling, No tyre rule, random circuit selection, 15 day season, 7 days a week) it will cost the best part of £60 per year with the 50% discount (accepting the loss of holiday races). We’ve only ever stopped racing for the required 1 day off between seasons, and I don’t feel comfortable asking other players to contribute while maintaining authority over the league as host in making decisions I feel I need to make. So it feels like a hosts responsibility to buy in to this. I don’t play around with settings, and have kept the status quo, even when most leagues transitioned to Non-Refuelling throughout all these years. I keep it that way on purpose so new players know what they’re buying into and not to constantly divide the community and keep a steady ship. So the ‘perks’ of being able to change settings to me has never applied or appeals, it now only feels as that to continue it will cost substantially. In terms of it being an accumulative fee, again, I just don’t see the incentive other members will have to pay it either, as they can easily just swap leagues and not contribute. Furthermore, as it is league wide, new players will be incentivised to join a Gold tier league with a higher boost to begin with, free of charge if they can grab a slot. Basically they will also be incentivised to join the leagues with odd schedules anyway. I’m fully on board with adding to the perk system at a later date, my concern is the now. I love the game but it feels like being punished as host for operating a niche league, decentralised from the majority. Whereas it has only kept the same format as during peak iGP.

Similarly, the catchment rate for new players has remained low, so it’s a lot of faith to have on expecting that to change (assuming a proportion of newcomers would boost XP and thereby also helping the league pot and the burden on the host). Otherwise, if it doesn’t rely on the host to front the cost albeit initially, it will also feel like extorting the remaining close community to pool funds together, most of which are already level 30 and don’t need XP. On a personal level, to start paying what is effectively a subscription in good faith, when the last two or three major updates have been UI changes & 3D/Wheel to wheel, when I can only play 2D on a browser is a concern I have. I can totally appreciate Jack, you’re trying to give a more direct voice to the community, but as has been said the focus is more on that side of things (mobile, app stores, 3d, and screen space limitations). I have enjoyed the game, and I know members have supported it, including myself in past years, but £600 value worth going into our 10th year at this moment in time (if it were to be replicated), as potential medicine for the game stings a little, and I feel it for the internationals as Sergio mentioned. For what is initially on offer right now £30-120/yr is a lot going into, for any host. Again, It’s only the entry prices being quoted which I feel are amiss. In time I have faith it will work, and I’ve decided that I’m aboard in supporting the game, I owe you that much for 10 years of enjoyment, and I am aware the real struggles the game is facing… and especially, I can appreciate you’re trying to lay the foundations to bring more to it, your efforts are appreciated rather than let iGP close down, but if I could have any input it would be to rejig the tiers for now, allowing more time to fill the perks. Move XP bonuses further up, make customisation options part of Silver and Gold, and go from there ie. multiple tiers, tier caps, custom point allocation, future updates, timed releases, multi leagues, VIP tie ins, etc. all in the Silver and Gold levels. Although biased, it makes more sense to me to put certain aspects of 3D behind a higher paywall than the custom league system, which IMO is to be celebrated rather than deemed as iGP’s problem, and be kept at Bronze.

So far you haven't announced anything that changes the race mechanics. Where's the chassis that's been promised for 2 years? Where's the new overtaking mechanic you announced? When are you going to announce new tracks? When will what veteran players are actually waiting for arrive? Are we going to have to wait another 2 years to see something truly new in the game?

Other features includes Danger car? 😂

Give 50% discount to all leagues + they could do 20 races seasons. This would add up to 13 weeks. 

13*5€*6 leagues = 390€. Already way cheaper.

Or you could sell just a part of the benefit. If you only want the feature to modify race days then you can pay 2€ and get that feature only.

It will be not aggressive in my opinion. The system rightly wants everyone to play more, but in reality they will do it less. Many will limit themselves to pretending to achieve the minimum simple task of 25% just to farm.
And the fact that you wrote BOTH already allows farmers to ignore the 25% and it will be enough to enter the game for a few seconds twice a month to remain in the system without ever doing anything.

Well, would an option for hosted leagues to change the auto-kick setting parameters "inactivity" (in days) and "low participation" (in % from a minimum of 25% to a minimum of 75% of races with setup/stategy, with intermediate brackets, for example 40%, 50%, and 60%) be possible? 
And maybe a third condition "online presence" during live race(minimum 10%-25%-50%)? or even a cap with a maximum percentage since you have already confirmed offline-only leagues can exist (effectively 0% maximum online participation) partially offline leagues can also exist (example 70% or 5/7 with the host selecting which days of the week are online and which are offline to please everyone who can not race on weekends with a compromise). 
(Now that you can choose your preferred start time and change it whenever you want every season without compromises or differences, it is reasonable to assume that they will do it at a time where they can follow at least 10% live, in my opinion, even in the official iGP leagues.). Or as an incentive, reward those who participate live in all or almost all of the season's races with something extra (tokens? 1 free boost? special liveries? whatever you want)

Thank you for being open to discussion.

If all changes that was being promised here will really happen, paytouse update might become justified.
Currently not interested in comeback, but I'll look at it.

First let me say, now that the month vs season has been clarified, our league seems safe!!


We run a singe league, but maybe you can have interconnected hosted leagues that have clear feeding into each other.
 Then apply discounts for the number of leagues connected to bring the price down to a reasonable level for a manager running multiple interconnected leagues.

Not sure what discount would make it worth it, but if someone has managed to successfully fill 5-6 leagues in a connected championship system, that is a manager I would think you want to not only keep, you would want to get him vitamins to make sure he keeps it up!! That’s a lot of players.

I think that managers who dont setup the car, must be unavailable to qualy and race.

This could be a good point to make clean and competitives leagues

Hi Jack, regarding this:


> “Pro (Tier 2): Can join player-hosted leagues”



What manager level is required to be considered Pro Tier? Level 5, level 10?

Best regards

Could be an option to select which races you want to be offline? 
Custom tyres for race is a great idea. Amount and type of tyres for each race. This point in gold vote for it.
For example:
RACE 1: Italy: must use 1S or 1 Ss and Max 1(M/H)
RACE 2: Mónaco: stock 1Ss only 
Too is a good idea the qualy restricted tyres. For example Mónaco not qualy with Ss.
Too is a good idea custom qualy tyres by position in clasification league 
Usually, we use custom rules by ourself, and maybe in a season we put a race offline

Great news. 

Last question: will the race history of the accounts be deleted?

Will the historical tables be deleted as well?

I’d like to know this, because if they are going to be deleted, I’ll download the race Excel files now 😂

Hello.

I have some specific questions:
 1. Will there be any change in engine development points such as getting 1 point for each race?

2. the amount of reward of bills and coins or tokens with the current sponsors or will they wait for the contract to end to introduce the new system?

3. Being clear that the market will be visible to everyone and the rest explained, will the sale and auction of pilots or personnel have any significant changes? Any limitations or restrictions?
Thank you